++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++ SUIKODEN 3 BOSS FAQ ++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Version 1.2 Written by Na2 ( Percival Lover ) yohanapra@yahoo.com Copyright 2002 Na2 This guide must only be found at http://ps2.ign.com www.gamewinners.com www.gamefaqs.com ================================================================================ This guide is dedicate to Konami's Suikoden 3 (US version), and this is my first try. If you want to submit your hints (about boss of course) or found mistakes in my faq, please send me email and i will add them on this faq. Please send me an email to yohanapra@yahoo.com. This faq is contain treasure bosses (optional bosses), and all of the bosses that appear in Suikoden 3. If it is an optional boss, i will note it. And if you want to use this faq in your website, please send me an email WARNING ! This faq does contain SPOILER. Hope this guide useful. =============================================================================== First of all, i would like to thank Sejik Richard Darnieder jbomb1234 Brian McGee Texas Android Amanda DeRitter Nystire King Arawn Peter Lee ownednOOb@aol.com Jeremy Gordon for submitting hints & tips (boss strategy) Eli H. for suggestions and those who whelp me created this faq =============================================================================== ----section 1 : contents------ section 1 - contents section 2 - updates section 3 - bosses and how to defeat them (include treasure bosses ) --------- chapter 1 --------- 1 Blue Mantrix 2 Wild Boar 3 Magician 4 3 Zexen Knights 5 4 Zexen Knights 6 Leo & Percival 7 Chris 8 Zexen knights 9 Borus and two knights on horses (NEW) 10 Twin Snake --------- chapter 2 --------- 11 Rock Golem 12 Yuber 13 Zexen Knights 14 Grasslanders 15 Grasslanders & Shiba 16 Chimera 17 Mantors 18 Duke & Party 19 The masked Bishop and Sarah --------- chapter 3 --------- 20 Azzodes 21 Zexen Knights ( 3 groups ) 22 Harmonian Soldiers 23 Mantors 24 Yuber 25 Luc, Sarah, Yuber (NEW ) --------- chapter 4 --------- 26 FireRincar 27 Luc, Sarah, Yuber 28 Sarah and monster 29 Water dragon 30 Nemesis --------- chapter 5 --------- 31 Twin snake 32 Luc and Sarah 33 5 groups of monster 34 Sarah 35 Yuber (and monsters ) 36 Sarah ( and monsters ) 37 Copper Sun 38 Last boss Section 4 - tips section 5 - Credits ================================================================================= -----section 2 : updates ----- version 1.00 12/12/02 - the first version version 1.01 12/16/02 - added tips for beating Luc, Sarah, Yuber in Alma Kinan - added tips for beating Borus ( Karaya Village, Geddoe chapter 1) I wonder how could i forget those two ?! ( Special thanks to Peter Lee for submitted tips ) version 1.03 12/23/02 - divided into chapter (thank's to Eli H.) - added Copper Sun strategy - added new azzodess strategy version 1.05 - added new strategy - for beating the masked bishop and companion - for beating Sarah - Added section 4 - tips version 1.2 - added new strategies - for beating Chris (chapter1) and Borus (chapter 1) ================================================================================ ----section 3 : boss ----- --------- chapter 1 --------- ==== Blue Mantrix === note : optional boss Location : Mt Hei Tou difficulty :easy This boss isn't so strong . You can beat it without any serious problem. It has three attack. First, a normal attack that can hit 1 people of your party. Second, it use a stronger attack then normal that also hit 1 people, the last is all party attacks (but it only reduce a little hp) You can fight this boss both in Geddoe chapter 1 and Chris chapter 2. If you fight this boss in Geddoe Chapter 1, First turn, use mercenary B unite attack, then the next turn just heal ( i'm sure you have a lot of medicine ) and keep attacking it beside casting your magic .You'll easily beat it. If you fight this boss in Chris chapter 2, just use the same strategy , it should be easy. The blue mantrix doesn't get stronger, and it is at the same place. So, beat it ( don't worry you will win) and get the treasure. ==== Wild Boar === Location : Mt Hei Tou (Thomas Chapter 1) difficulty: normal You must fight it when you looked for a woman's child. then walk straight in mountain Hei Tou, until you reach the end. And you will fight this tough wild boar. This boss SURE is tough, but if you do the right thing the battle will much easier. When you fight this boss, you should only have 4 peoples in your party. ( Thomas, Cecile, Piccolo, and that sleeping Juan ). Locate Juan and Thomas at the front line, and put Cecile behind Thomas and Piccolo behind Juan. First turn, cast the strongest Piccolo's magic and use Cecile and Thomas Best Effort (the unite attack). Then, the boar may kill Thomas or Juan. The next turn, cast the magic with Piccolo ( I hope you keep him alive ) and use Cecile attack, that should killed the boar. note : This boss can be hard if Piccolo died or you don't have enough medicine. ==== Magician ==== Location : North Cavern Note : optional boss ( Thomas chapter 1) difficulty : easy Just one thing i could say when i beat the boss, it's very easy! He's just trying to cast magic all the time, and what must i do is to keep attacking him, so he couldn't cast the magic. After one or two round you'll easily defeat him without any problem. After you beat him, you will gain over 12000p and some good item ( for Thomas ) ===== 3 Zexen Knights ===== Location : Vinay del Zexay (Hugo chapter 1) difficulty : normal This one must be tough. I tried it for a few tries, and i died. The knights should be too hard to defeat, because There are only 3 people in the party (Hugo,Lulu and Sgt Joe) but you can handle it if your Hugo, Lulu and Sergeant Joe at least level 14,if you're not lvl 14, go to zexen forest or plain amur to fight enemies. Before you fight this boss, you need to sharpen your weapon. But, you maybe don't have enough money. So, try this trick. When you come at the first time to Vinay del Zexay, you must delivered something to Lightfellow family. Delivered it, and ask for price. The man will give you 5000 potch, ask more. Then he will give you ANOTHER 5000 potch, if you want more, jusk ask. ( I stop when i gained 10.000 p, that's enough ). With the money, sharpen your weapon. Next, the strategy. This fight can be tough, if you don't use Hugo's rune. My formation is Sgt Joe and Lulu at the front line, and Hugo behind Sgt Joe. First round, use Hugo's wind of sleep and use Lulu and Sgt Joe attack the knight on the front line. Then keep healing and attacking one by one, and you should beat them. After you win, your level will gain up and reach lvl 19. The next fight should be easy. ===== 4 zexen knights ===== Location : Vinay del zexay ( Hugo chapter 1) difficulty : easy This is the second fight after the first one. Just use the same strategy, and you'll win easily. ===== Leo and Percival ====== Location : Vinay del Zexay ( Hugo chapter 1) NOte : Optional bosses difficulty : ---------- Leo, Percival, and their knights are definitely strong. But don't worry, you don't need to win. ( thank's to Fubar ) or if you don't want to fight them, just pick the second option to avoid a fight. However, if you choose to fight, just attack them with your party, and they'll kill Sgt Joe and Lulu EASILY. But don't worry, the battle will conluded it self. ===== Chris ===== Location : Karaya Village (Hugo chapter 1) note: Optional boss difficulty : --------- You don't have to win or lose, if you choose to attack her, you'll fight her, the fight will end in 3 turns. ===== zexen knights (inside budehuc castle, Thomas chapter 2) ===== Location : Budehuc castle Difficulty : normal During the rebellion, after major battle, you will fight some knights outside your castle,and after you win you will fight very strong knights inside the castle. This time, just keep defend in every turn (don't let the knights kill you) and don't try to beat them, because i guess they had infinite lives. So, all you can do is survive, and the battle will concluded. ===== zexen knights (including Chris----> not the real one)===== Location : Great Hollow ( Geddoe chapter 1) Difficulty : hard This is a hard battle. Chris LIKES to heal, and she has a powerful magic. You probably don't win this fight, but you can, if you can use mercenary b attack at Chris. If you lose, don't worry, you don't have to win. If you want to win, cast your most powerful magic at her, and finish her before she heal her party. Strategy from Brian McGee I had all my characters at lvl 24 and Geddoe's Lightning magic at B+ and Jack's Fire at B+ also. The way I fought the battle was I had every one attack while Jack cast Blazing Wall (which will kill all of the Zexen Knights, then I cast Soaring bolt with Geddoe while the other's attack which will finish off Chris (look alike) easily. Now this will only work if Chris doesn't cast Breath of Ice (which kills most of the party) don't get me wrong you can still win with the remaining characters but I prefer to just restart and try again. I won with everybody after just the 2nd try. I will tell you what happens if you want but I think you would rather beat her and find out for yourself, though it isn't anything special. ===== Borus and two knights on horses ===== location : Karaya Village Difficulty : ----- note : optional For this fight i added a tips (strategy) from Peter Lee --------- Anyway, with this i have another idea that came to mind. This isnt as accurate as i'd like it to be, but it's the battle against Borus and two knights on horses in one of Geddoe's chapters, the one where you battle in the Karayan Village. You should probably begin by dividing Queen and Geddoe up into two separate parts (divide and conquer xD;;). When the battle begins try to cast Ripple on Borus to poison him, and take out the two supporting knights either separately or all together with weak(er) magic. Next after the two knights are dust, focus on the remaining enemy, Borus (duh =Þ) by pounding him in with Queen and using your strongest magic from Geddoe, then use physical attacks with him when you're done. Heal when you need to and good luck! Amanda DeRitter --------------- have geddoes light magic skill up to A rank. put queen in the front and geddoe in the back. first turn have queen defend and geddoe use his lvl 3 light magic. queen will almost ALWAYS die, but the lighting will take out the 2 knights and take a huge chunk out of borus. then just attack and heal, or magic LVL 1 (not 2 cuz borus will cancle it) and heal. ===== Twin Snake ===== Location : Mountain Path (Geddoe chapter 1) difficulty : normal This fight can be easy or hard, depend on your strategy. I suggest you NOT to use magic (except Aila's shield ). Because if you use magic, this boss will ALSO cast its powerful magic. At the first round, use mercenary B unite attack to the Left head. Then the second round, keep attacking the left head, and heal using Aila's rune. After the left head die, attack the right head. Keep attacking and the right head will die easily. When the body alone (without any head) you can use your magic or just attacking. After a few turn, you will defeat it without any problem. After you win, you will gain a lot of money and a ? Statue. Appraise it to get an S statue. You will use this to recruit Billy. --------- chapter 2 --------- ===== Rock Golem ===== Location : Mountain Path ( Geddoe chapter 2) Note : optional difficulty : rather dificult When you're going to Le Buque, you'll see a rock golem replace the twin snake. This is another optional boss. And if you're not at lvl 35 or higher, i suggest you leave him and come back in Geddoe chapter 3. But, i recommended you to fight him, because the treasure contains a lot of things ( including Hex Doll S ------> ? statue ) and a bunch of powerful armor. First round, use lvl 4 Geddoe's rune, and lvl 4 Joker's rune. Use Aila to cast Clay Guardian. You should decrease a lot of the rock golem's hit points, and the rock golem should use explosion and kill 3 of your party ( mine were Ace, Queen, and Jaques died). Second round, use Aila's great blessing, and place Geddoe in front of the Golem ( if you can). Don't let him attack Joker, if Joker is being attacked, use Aila's rune to recover his hp. Now your live depends on Joker's fire rune. I suggest you to keep Geddoe ALIVE ( so equip him a lot of medicine ). Because it will be very hard if you're only have two people alive. If the Golem almost lose,he will try to cast explosion again. Now is your time to use Geddoe's lightning rune and Joker's fire rune. If you're lucky, the rock golem will stop casting, or he will die. Rock Golem ( by Sejik ) : If you're level 32+ It is possible to beat in Chapter 1 before you visit Caleria. (Just wait off in the next screen till it respawns after a few hours or so) Weapon levels don't really matter here. You just need enough HP to last a few attacks. Make sure all your character's skills are as high as you can get them. Armor protect especially for Geddoe. Anyways, the single most important spell you can have is "Battlefield". All magic 1.5x for 3 turns. Then all you have to do is have Geddoe cast every highpowered Lightning Spell he has, Joker cast every highleveled fire spell he has. (The problem with that though is that early on, some people arn't smart enough to dodge those firespells and you end up killing your own people. Either reform your party to where you have Jacques /Geddoe, Aila/Joker, and Queen/Ace. Then just tell Queen/Ace to defend.) Once you throw out a fire spell or two, have everyone else attack, keeping Aila casting heal spells when needed, or using heal potions in your party. Ah, and um Berserk is good too. So during those 3 turns however you want Geddoe throwing everything at it. Especially train his Lightning Magic up. Shouldn't even take 3 turns... Rock Golem ( by jbomb1234 ) : Use Geddoe Lighting rune and Joker's fire rune to tear him apart. I also had queen use the shredding a couple of times. I just broke out with my most powerful rune attacks and I beat it in four turns. Also use that girls eart magic to protect Ace because he will NOT run away when Joker uses his fire rune like everyone else. ====== Yuber ====== Location : Ancient Highway ( Hugo chapter 2 ) Dificulty : hard Yuber is VERY tough. Yes, he has a powerful attack and dodge a lot. This is the strategy i used. First, have all your party above level 30, then mounted Hugo on Fubar. ( Don't forget to sharpen your weapon too ) Firs round use Lily, Reed, Samus unit attack and have Hugo and Fubar attack the man in black. Then the man in black should attack Hugo/Fubar and reduce alot of their hit points. Use Fubar's medicine to heal up, then keep attacking him using Hugo/ Fubar. I'm not sure you can survive here. but if you lose, don't worry because Sarah will stop Yuber before he kill you. ===== Zexen knights ====== Location : Great Hollow ( Hugo chapter 2 ) Difficulty : easy note : optional ( if you choose the first option ) The're not hard. Just kill them one by one, and heal as usual. After this fight, you must fight another group of Zexen knights. But you can heal your party first before the next fight ( so no need to worry ) For the next fight, just use the same strategy. ===== Grasslanders ( 2 group ) ====== Location : Iskay Village ( Chris chapter 2 ) Difficulty : Normal This two fight shouldn't hard if you keep your health. Just attack them normally and heal after one turn, then you should beat them. ===== Grasslanders & Shiba ===== Location : Iskay village ( Chris chapter 2) Difficulty : normal At the first turn, focus your attack on Shiba ( because he has a high damage ) after you killed him then finished his friends. ===== Chimera ===== Location : North Cavern ( Chris chapter 2) Difficulty : easy note : optional boss Return to where you found Ayame , She will replaced by a new boss, chimera. This boss really shouldn't be too hard. Just attack it with your strongest attack and heal with Percival water rune. You should beat it in a few round. After you win, loot the prize as usual. ===== Three men and mantors ====== Location : Le Buque ( Geddoe chapter 2 ) Difficulty : normal When you entered Le Buque at the first time, You'll attacked by mantor trainers and their mantors. First, kill Franz and his two friends, because they have powerful attacks ( but the're weak ) Just finish the three men then killed the mantor one by one. If you focus your attack on 1 people / mantor and heal every round, you should win this fight. Tips by Gerry Skurski < gfloyd@coslink.net > All you need to do is successfully cast explosion with joker, and all the enemies pretty much die. :) ===== Duke and his party ====== Location : Mt senai ( Geddoe chapter 2 ) difficulty : normal At mountain Senai, if you choose the first option, then you'll fight him along with his party ( Elaine, Gau, Nicolas ) First, use mercenary B unite attack to kill Elaine first ( because she likes to heal! ) then kill Duke, Gau, and Nicolas the last. This fight would be pretty easy if you attack and heal on the right time. ===== The masked Bishop and Sarah ====== Location : Mt Senai ( Geddoe chapter 2 ) Difficulty : hard This fight might be END in 1 turn, so be careful ( but don't worry, you don't need too win ) but they're beatable. First round, use Geddoe and Joker cast their strongest magic, and Aila cast Great Blessing. If you're lucky, The masked bishop should be stop casting his powerful magic. If you can survive in the first round and kill the masked bishop, the fight will be easier. Just heal with Aila and use mercenary B unite attack at Sarah, and she will killed easily. Note : Use wind of sleep !! --------- chapter 3 --------- ===== Azzodes ===== Location : Flame champ Hideaway ( chapter 3 ) Difficulty : rather difficult Note : Optional boss You can fight this boss with everyone when they reach flame champ Hideaway.But i suggest you to fight her with Geddoe's unit. ( the strongest unit and also have a good healer ) Before you fight this boss, make sure you have yellow scarf ( buy them in Vinay del Zexay supply shop , in the "rarity" list ) and give it to Aila ( because she's the only healer) Thunder magic DOESN't work on her, so don't use it, and remember, she has attack that can silent your party ( so give yellow scarf to Aila and Joker if you have two of it) My formation for this battle : Geddoe Ace Queen Jacques Joker Aila equip medicine for every people. First turn, use mercenary B unite attack. The second round the boss will be berserk. Now she have powerful magic!! Use Aila for healing then use everyone else attack. You should finish her in 5 turn ( When Aila runs out her "great blessing" ) >I found another strategy to win this battle while you're in Chris chapter 3. First, don't enter the FlampChampHdaway, but enter Chisa Village. Go inside the inn and talk to Sana, i'm sure you only have 4 peoples in your party (Chris, Nash, Fred Rico) Put Emily and Nei to your party, and head to FlampChampionHideaway. There you can leveling Nei up to 30 and the other to lvl 41. You don't need Yellow scarf to win this battle. My formation : Chris Nash (water) Fred Rico (water) Emily Nei Equip everyone with a lot of medicine. Then, cast Song of madness from Nei's Jongleur rune. Everyone will attack the boss hardly, use Chris phoenix rune, it work great , and the boss will silent your party, but the first time, she can't silent my Nei and Rico. So, keep casting the song of madness, and heal using Rico's water rune. the third round, she will berserk, but don't worry, use your medicines along with chris phoenix rune and song of madness. The boss should destroyed easily. ===== 3 groups of Zexen knights ===== Location : Yaza Plain ( Hugo chapter 3 ) Difficulty : Normal Just use the same strategy when you beat the last Zexen soldier. After one fight, you can heal your party, so it will be easier. ===== Leo, Roland, and 2 zexen knights ===== Location : Brass Castle ( Hugo chapter 3 ) Difficulty : easy note : optional In Brass castle, if you choose " This time will be different! " you'll fight them. Mounted Hugo on Fubar, and attack them one by one. First, kill the knight in the front line, Roland, and Leo the last. ====== 2 groups of Harmonian soldier ====== Location : Chisha village (Hugo chapter 3 ) difficulty : easy This battles really don't need any strategy. Just kill them one by one as usual. ===== 2 mantor & 2 mantor trainer ====== location : chisa village (Hugo chapter 3 ) difficulty : easy Beat the mantor trainers first then the mantors. Use medicine as usual. ===== Franz & mantors ===== Difficulty : easy location : Chisa ( Chris chapter 3 ) This fight should be pretty easy and don't need any strategy. The strategy i used 1st turn : use Yumi's earthquake ------- > all the mantors along with the trainers died. or 1st turn : Chris phoenix rune ---- > Franz Fred & Rico unite atttack ------> Franz YUmi ------> attack 2nd turn : everyone attack the other mantor trainer, then the mantors for the last. ===== Yuber ====== Location : Kuput Forest ( way to Alma Kinan, Chris chapter 3 ) difficulty : easy For this fight my formation was Nash Fred Chris Yumi Rico Yuiri You don't have to win this battle, but you can. First, use Yumi's earthquake along with Yuiri's strongest magic. Then use Maximillian unite attack. If someone in your party have a low hp, use Nash or Chris to heal with their water rune. Keep your health up and attack him with Yumi and Yuiri's strongest magic, you should beat him in a few turns. ===== Luc, Sarah , Yuber ====== Location : Alma Kinan ( Chris chapter 3 ) difficulty : hard Added Strategy from Peter Lee : I have found out a way to defeat Luc, Sara, and Yuber, in Alma Kinan. First, cast Wind of Sleep, and it will almost always put Sara to sleep, sometimes with Luc, and almost never with Yuber. With that first turn, try to attack Luc with everything you can with physical attacks, or a very quick, and possibly strong magic spell. After he's dealt with, focus your attacks at Yuber, which'll be pretty simple if you have most if not all of your people at near or full health (I had everyone at full health except Maxamillion), just take your time. Next'll obviously be Sara, (who should be asleep) which is a piece of cake if you know how to battle and operate a controler. Another strategy from Jeremy Gordon : Make sure Chris has a very high Parry skill and the Killer Rune. Round 1, have Rico cast Kindness Rain so it gets everyone. Sarah will always use Breath of Ice, which will do heavy damage. Should Luc use a spell as well, you'll be dead. Have everyone attack Sarah. She has low HP, so she'll fall easily.Round 2, Rico's Kindness Rain will have worked already, and you'll be at full health. Have everyone attack Luc. If Chris is in the front, she's likely to parry attacks from Yuber, endering him useless. Nash can usually knock Luc out of his chant, so try that. Luc should fall in 1-2 rounds. After that, it's easy. Yuber is really simple by himself, and only if he gets beserked you might need to heal. This was probably one of the easiest battles in the game for me, with this strategy. Note : use wind of sleep! --------- chapter 4 --------- ===== FireRincar ====== Location : FlampChampHdaway (chapter 4 ) Difficulty : Normal This fight isn't too hard, if you do a good work leveling up Hugo, Chris, and Geddoe. They should be around lvl 42. I part Geddoe with Chris then Hugo alone. Ged did a great job casting his powerful TLR. But if you want to win the next fight, don't cast Ged's most powerful rune and just keep Hugo attack the dragon. Heal if 2 peoples of your party have low hp ( use Chris to heal ). I healed my party Then, what do you need to survive is keep your health up, use Ged's true lightning lvl 3 and 2 then use the other to attack the dragon. It shouldn't be too hard, after this battle your flame champion will gain the true fire rune, and you will encounter the next boss. ==== Luc , Sarah , Yuber ====== Location : Flamp ChampHdaway (chapter 4 ) Difficulty : hard This fight must be tough because you can't heal before it began. If you follow my strategy above (not to use Geddoe's strongest magic ) you have a little chance to win (but you don't have to ) Use Geddoe to cast Hammer of Raijin to kill Luc first , then take Sarah by Hugo's strongest spell from his True Fire rune ( He is my FC) then finished Yuber. don't forget to HEAL and don't let Sarah use her water rune. I'm not sure you can win this fight ( it should be very hard to win this battle ) but the battle will be easier if you kill Luc first ( he has a POWERFUL magic ), Sarah the second ( to avoid healing ) then Yuber ( the strongest fighter i've ever seen ). NOTE : if you want this fight become much easier, use wind of sleep ===== Sarah and Monsters ===== Location : Cyndar Ruins (chapter 4) Difficulty : easy For this fight i use Hugo/Viki Estella/Emily Juan/Nei Just use Viki lvl 1 Pale gate rune to kill all of her friends ( if not, use Emily, Juan, and Hugo to finish them ) after the monsters destroyed, you will win this battle. I suggest you not to attack Sarah (focus on her monster one by one to avoid healing from Sarah ) Strategy from ownednOOb@aol.com i used Hugo/Fubar, Hallec/Shiba, and Futch/Bright Hugo/Fubar took out the monster in front of her, then Futch/Bright hit her to disrupt her spell, and Hallec finished her off in one round total. ===== Water Dragon and 6 Ice Pillars ====== Location : Cyndar Ruins (chapter 4 ) Difficulty : hard Lots of people say this is the hardest battle, but if you follow this strategy, you will never had problem beating this boss. My party was ( around lvl 51 ) Hugo (FC) Viki ( Pale Gate, shield ) Estella ( thunder, rage ) Emily ( lion , haziness ) Juan ( doublestrike, waking, yellow scarf) Nei ( Jongleur, Violence ) 1 st round ---------- i Use Viki to cast Open gate ( lvl 1 pale gate rune ) and all the 6 ice pillar destroyed. I use Estella cast her lvl 4 thunder rune and make the boss wounded hard Then Nei song of madness Emily and Juan attack like crazy 2nd round ---------- The dragon use his magic Viki cast great blessing nei keep casting the song of madness Hugo, Emily and Juan make the dragon wounded seriously Estella use her lvl 4 thunder rune and destroy the boss note : if the dragon revive one crystal just use Emily and Juan to attack it and Estella's magic work wonderful. Another tips for beating the water dragon (by Nistyre ) Well, i just used the best True Fire spell (Hugo) as well as the 5th Lightning spell (with Estella) on the first turn.The Water Dragon was badly wounded and all crystals were destroyed. I had one Fire ring and 2 lightning rings.Then i just attacked/used single target spells/ healed until he died. The dragon revived one crystal once, but it never had the time to harm me.Easy if you ask me. (i discovered the power of the pale gate rune during the 6th POV, never used it before...) (by Texas Android ) The other ways tend to go one of two routes: 1) Indirect damage. Ways to hit and damage the Dragon that bypass the crystals. These include: Ranged attacks, Magic, Mounted attacks, Runes (Like Chris' Phoenix). 2) Area magic to take out the crystals. I defeated it my first time through with a variant of the second. I had: Hugo/Fubar - Leo/Aila - Edge/Watari Hugo had True Fire, Aila had Mother Earth and Shield, Edge had Thunder. Leo ran up to the front crystal and became and immovable object/tank, distracting the crystals. I think every attack from the crystals was on him. Physical attacks from them did 1 damage, magic attacks did ~100. Alia ended up not using her Mother Earth Rune, she was too busy healing with the Shield Rune almost every turn. She was taking the area magic attacks from the crystals, and needed to make sure the magic damage on Leo didn't wear him down. Watari was useless. Hugo was blasting away with True Fire. An Explosion targeted on the back crystal would hit all crystals, but barely miss Leo. Edge was blasting away with the Thunder Rune. 3-4 turns of area magic blasts, and the crystals started dropping, starting with the one in front that Leo had been pounding on. Once the crystals were down, it was only a turn or two of wailing on the Dragon itself for it to fall, since it had been taking a beating from the area magic just like the crystals. Another strategy from Richard Darnieder My Party: Chris (FC) *Must have Fire Magic Rank of C Estella *Must have Pale Gate Magic Rank of B+ or higher Percival *Must have weapon at level 12 and Water Magic Rank of B Rody *Must have Blinking Rune Hallec *Must have weapon to level 13 Nash *Must have weapon to level 11 and Water Magic Rank of B This is what I did, and I killed it in four or five rounds ROUND 1 ESTELLA: Use LV1 Pale Gate Magic PERCIVAL: Attack Water Dragon NASH: Begin to chant water spell ROUND 2 CHRIS: Final Flame RODY: Set! NASH: Use Water Spell ROUND 3 Note-If Hallec isn't dead by now, you are so lucky ESTELLA: Use any Pale Gate Magic PERCIVAL: Attack or Defend HALLEC: Attack *Continue Round 3's instructions until you beat it. If your party is low on HP, use Nash or Percival to heal. If the Water Dragon won't stop hitting Chris, use her Phoenix Rune, he'll stop attacking her. The Water Dragon will replenish the ice around it. If it replenishes 2 or more, use LV1 Pale Gate Magic, they'll die. ===== Nemesis ===== Location : Mountain Senai ( chapter 4) Difficulty : easy note : optional boss I met this boss when i was looking for the damn dog , the first time i met IT, i thaught that he's only a STATUE. Then i walked near him, and .... the screen changed! Whatever, i must fight him, and this is a few tips for beating him: You don't need to waste your magic on him, just keep attacking him and heal anyone who have low hp. Most of his attack only damage one people and reduce a little of your hit point. note : This boss also found in the flame champion hideaway (chapter 5) --------- chapter 5 --------- ===== Twin Snake ===== Location : Mountain Path ( chapter 5 ) Difficulty : easy You'll fight this boss again as Geddoe . Your party suppose to be Geddoe,Queen, Ace,Joker, Jacques, Aila. But it will be much easier this time. my strategy : - destroy the left head by mercenary B unite attack , use Aila to heal - then use everyone attack the right head until it destroyed - After the heads destroyed, attack the body , casting magic also a good idea ===== Luc and Sarah ===== Location : Mt Senai Difficulty : hard (chapter 5 ) This fight is beatable ( i beat them once ) but you don't have to win this one. Anyway, i use lvl 4 Geddoe's true lightning , Joker's Explosion (to kill monsters) Everyone else focus on Luc .If you're lucky, there's a chance for Luc not to cast his most powerful magic ( then you can kill him on one shot from Geddoe's True lightning ). After Luc killed , finish Sarah using Mercenary B unite attack Anyway, whether you win or not, they will take your true rune. ===== 5 groups of monsters ===== Location : Mt Senai (chapter 5 ) Difficulty : normal Before going to Mt Senai, Bring Goro on your support slot ( If not him, bring Tuta ) After you encounter Luc, you have to fight 5 groups of monsters They're Ghost Armors and Mirages . Use Aila's great blessing and Joker all party attack ( ex : Explossion ) And beat the ghost Armor first, because they can inflicts heavy damage. After three battles, you'll be given three choices, and choose to fight or back to the place where you fought Luc ( but don't choose to leave the villager behind ) If you run out of medicine, i suggest you to go back (to equip more medicine and resume fighting. ) Ater 5 battles (total ) , You'll be saved by Duke and his groups. ===== Sarah ====== Location : Kuput Forest (chapter 5) Difficulty : easy This time Sarah will accompanied with 3 Azzodess. My party was Chris (true water ) Borus Salome Roland Futch ...>> Bright ...>> MOUNTED support : Louis My strategy is : - Equip everyone mega medicine C X4 - Use Chris' Silent Lake to prevent Sarah from casting anything - then use the other to attack Azzodess ONE by ONE - After the Azzodess died, Sarah will retreat ===== Yuber and monsters ====== Location : Ceremonial site ( chapter 5 ) Difficulty : hard This battle shouldn't be too hard if you're around lvl 55. My party was front line / back line Mua / Estella Percival / Geddoe Sharon / Viki - Mua equipped with firefly and wall rune - Estella ( thunder, rage, wizard ) - Percival (water ) - Sharon ( wind, but it's useless ) - Elder Viki (shield ) 1 st round ---------- - Estella cast lvl 4 thunder rune ---->>>> that's make all monster DIED - Geddoe cast lvl 4 lightning rune - Percival attack - Sharon and Viki attack 2nd round --------- - Yuber will only attack Mua , and you should be homefree (Mua sure is a TANK) - Estella cast lvl 4 thunder rune - Geddoe use lvl 3 lightning rune - Viki heal everybody IF Yuber USE his lightning rune 3rd round ---------- - Keep casting Estella and Geddoe's strongest magic ( while Yuber only attacking Mua ) - Use the other to attack - After 4 / 5 round, Yuber should die note : With this party, i beat him easily with no one on my party died Another tips for beating Yuber : (by jbomb1234 ) First make sure EVERYONE you use is lv. 53 or better. Next I used Geddoe, Franz, Ruby, Queen, Joker, and Ace. Use Geddoe Lighting Rune and Joker Fire rune and use your best total party attacks to get rid of Yuber's help. Franz should attack the hell unicorn because besides Yuber that is the only thing that will survive every time. Yuber will attack Geddoe but if everything is maxed out he will dodge the attack (not his level but his stats). Next use Gueddoe Lighting rune again to attack everything and anything left over. Except for the fire rune it is best to use total part attacks every time. When Yuber is the only one left just use magic to tear him apart because it can be real hard for anyone to hit him with a normal attack. Best Advice, bring people with LOTS of magic (by King Arawn ) For the Yuber battle it helps to have fire amulets, skunks, and blue ribbons. If you have room put a lightning amulet on someone just in case. I had Geddoe, Mua, Ayame, Watari, Viki, Sharon. Had blue ribbons for the females and skunk runes for all but Mua. But, you don't really need a blue ribbon for Sharon. And, you can substitute any good fighter with a shield for either Mua or Sharon... someone like Cecile. Use Ayame's and Watari's combo attack. This pair comes in handy for whichever fight you want to use them for. Plus, they almost always go first. Have Viki use her rune magic for both attacks and healing. So have Pale Gate and Shield runes. With this setup Yuber will focus his attacks on Mua or Sharon (if you didn't put a blue ribbon on her) who should be able to handle them quite easily. Get rid of the monsters first since they almost always cast group attack magic. Once they are gone this fight becomes rather easy because you can now focus solely on Yuber. Btw, using Ayame's Shrike to attack Yuber is very effective and she doesn't lose balance like for some 2X attack runes. ===== Sarah and monsters ===== Location : Ceremonial Site ( chapter 5 ) Difficulty : Hard The easiest way to win this battle is using Silent Lake to avoid her Pale gate Rune. First advice : bring Lots of medicine (equip everyone with mega medicine B / mega medicine A X4 ) My party was Chris ( phoenix , water ) Emily ( lion / double strike , haziness ) ---> S swing Nicholas ---- Duke ( lightning ) Juan (lion / doublestrike , waking, Yellow Scarf ) ---> S continual attack Elaine ( water---->> Silent Lake X2 ) 1 st turn --------- - Chris & Emily attack ( Emilly attack like crazy ) - Nicholas & Duke attack - Elaine cast Silent Lake from her water rune - Juan attack ---->>>> The two big monster at the front line WON'T survive 2nd turn and the next turns -------------------------- Focus attacking the azzodess one by one ( because they have powerful all party attacks ) and heal if you're low at hp. After the two Azzodess died, finish Sarah ( she is nothing compare to Emily and Juan ). That should end the battle with no one on your party died. Note : Nicolas DONE a great job! All of the Azzodess attack only reduce 1 from his hp Another tips for beating Sarah: (by jbomb1234) First everyone should be lv. 53 or better. Use Hugo, Fubar, The two ninjas, two people with good rune magic. Use the ninja combo to damage everything and the shredding will take out any left overs. Now all you have to deal with is Sarah. Circle her, attack her, kill her. Best advice, All of her monsters have low HP, if you can attack them all before she heals them it will be a VERY EASY battle. (by Texas Android ) For Sarah, bring mostly physical fighters and one person with Water or Flowing rune. Cast Silent Lake to cut off Sarah's spells. Make sure you have medicine equipped for healing. (by King Arawn ) For the Sarah battle it helps to have any magic resistance rings, magic resistance armor, water and fire amulets. I had Hugo, Fubar, Lucia, Lilly, Elaine, and the little Viki. You can replace Elaine or Lilly with any other good hitter with resistance to magic or add another mage instead. Or a fast character with good magic resistance like Nash. Anyways, hopefully all/most your characters are highly magically resistant, have at least some water and fire amulets. This battle can be harder than the one with Yuber if you don't have the proper equipment and setup. Make sure you take out Sarah asap. She will do the most damage and unlike Yuber who doesn't uses his lightning rune as often. Sarah usually uses either group magic attacks or heals all of her minions. Having Viki around helps since she has both good offense and healing magic runes. If you didn't use Jeanne as your support for the Yuber battle then it would be good to have her in this one. If you didn't use Ayame and Watari for the previous battle then they will still come in handy here. Even though, they don't have great magic resistance. ===== Copper Sun ====== Difficulty : Easy Location : Cyndar Ruins ( Chapter 5) Note : optional boss This is optional, so you can fight him before the last boss if you want. This isn't the copper sun you usually meet in FlameChampHideaway or Ancient Highway. He has a higher hp then the usual copper sun. But i'm sure you don't need magic to beat him, and you can beat him in 2/3 turns. It has same attack with the usual copper sun. So, no need to worry. To defeat him easily, just bring Emily and Juan along with Nei and her Song of Madness. After you defeat him, you'll gain around 110.000 potch, some mega medicine, and some powerful armor. ====== Last Boss - water crystal ======= - windrincar - fire crystal - lightning crystal - earth cristal Difficulty : hard This boss have 5 parts, each have around 3000 hp, except the water crystal ( 4000 hp) and the windrincar ( 11000 hp ) This is my party Hugo ( S repel , FC, ) ---->> lvl 62 Juan ( double strike , waking ) ---->> lvl 59 Emily (double strike , haziness ) ---->> lvl 58 Sasarai (True Earth (S), Pale Gate (B+), flowing (A) )---->> lvl 58 Chris (True water, phoenix )---->> lvl 59 Nei (Jongleur, violence ) ---->> lvl 57 And i tried to raise all magic resistance to max 1 st turn --------- - Hugo & Juan ---> attack lightning rune ( don't use Hugo's TFR because it will reflected and attack your party ) - Sasarai cast canopy defense (while Emily attacking the fire rune ) Chris attack the fire rune, Nei cast " Song of Madness LIGHTNING & FIRE DESTROYED ALONG WITH MY EMILY AND JUAN 2nd turn -------- - Hugo attack water crystal - Sasarau use kindness rain - Chris & Nei attack water crystal THE LIGHTNING REVIVED 3 rd turn ---------- - Hugo attack lightning crystal - Sasarai use mother ocean to revive Emily - Chris cast kindness rain and Nei attacking the bird - Emily attack the lightning crystal like crazy, after it destroyed she attack the bird THE LIGHTNING CRYSTAL DIED 4th turn --------- - Hugo attack water crystal - Sasarai revive Juan - Chris cast kindness rune - Both Emily and Juan kill the water crystal and hit the bird 5 th turn ---------- - All attack the earth crystal except Nei who cast Song of Madness THE EARTH CRYSTAL DESTROYED AND THE BIRD SERIOUSLY WOUNDED 6th turn --------- - CHris use kindness rain to heal - The other attack the bird BOSS DIED. note : First, attack the lightning and fire crystal, water crystal, earth , then windrincar the last. Emily and Juan really did a good job because of their crazy continual attack Another tips for beating the last boss : (by jbomb1234) Ok this is hard so the best thing to do is take out the runes in this order ,Lighting, Water, Fire,Earth, Final Boss. The True Lighting rune works best until the earth rune cast that super protect spell. Best advice, Lot and Lots of luck and take out the Water Rune Stone ASAP (By King Arawn ) For the first time I fought the final battle I had Chris, Queen, Hugo, Fubar, Viki and little Viki. You could replace Queen or one of the Vikis with a good physical attacker that has good magic resistance, another offensive mage with healing magic, or a character that is a great Jongleur like Nei (she also is a good character to use in any of the previous fights against Yuber, Sarah or Luc too). Again have good magic resistance equipment. And, hopefully you have room for runes like flowing, rage, awareness, killer, etc... Attack with Chris or use True Fire rune, attack with Queen and Hugo on Fubar. Try and take out the water rune asap. Have Viki or any mage you chose to use any rune magic you need (like Shield rune's Battle Oath and Great Blessing, Flowing, Rage and the True Water rune, etc... all come in handy). Attack magic can be hindered by that earth rune so be weary of that. Or have Nei use Jongleur all 4 songs are very helpful. Song of Madness and Song of Hero will probably be used. If you don't have Jeanne as support then you will probably use Song of Skylark too. Anyways, at the end of the battle all were still standing. This really wasn't a very difficult battle in my opinion. I was hoping it would be harder. But, perhaps to make it a challenge is to try it with less than a 6 character party. I'm sure that is winable. And anyways, my characters were in their mid to upper 50 lvls except Chris who was lower 60's. You can also use the silent lake strategy (on this battle or the previous ones) which is effective but a little cheap imo Just bring medicine or food along then. Another strategy from me < Updated ----- NEW > Anyway, yesterday i fought the boss again, with the same party, and can beat the boss only 2 turn. My party was Hugo Juan Emily -------- >> same party, right Sasarai -------- >> Chris Nei 1 st round ---------- Hugo ---> final flame ( cast this before the earth crystal cast its super magic reflect spell) Sasarai ----> Canopy defense Nei ----> Song of madness 2nd round --------- Hugo attack Sasarai use kindness rain Nei cast song of madness , that made Emily do critical and hit the windRincar more than 5000 damage. This should kill the boss. Note: you don't need to kill the water & earth orb, you only need to kill the fire & lightning to avoid high magic damage, than focus on the windRIncar. ----section 3 end ---- ===================================================================================== ---- section 4 : tips ---- -I found really great strategy for win EVERY fight with Yuber, Sarah, Luc. My advice : Use WIND OF SLEEP ( Luc and Sarah always go to sleep by this) - always pair magician with fighters ===================================================================================== --- Section 5 : Credits ----- Special thank's to Game Faqs for listed my faq Stephen Ng from ign.com for posting my faq gamewinners.com for listed my faq all of you who helped me in the Suikoden 3 message board ( for submitting hints and tips) And all of you who read and rate this faq.