|Circle of Sages|
|Round 2 1/2: Version 1.1|
Lorelai: So begins the Circle of Sages, Round Two. Uh ok, 2 and 1/2. I, Lorelai, have pulled a late-nighter giving you what you deserve: the second update to Circle of Sages. Instead of a new page though, I've buffed up the first one and corrected some small errors we made, particularly on the names of Sephiroth and Fei Fong Wong. Well, hope this makes up for our canoe mishap. (read below for what I wrote the first update)
||Don't be timid...|
We sages are tired.
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Lorelai earlier: I'm your temporary host, Lorelai, from the Fan Art Department. Yes, there is a reason why this update is late: We sages were all crowded into the canoe, hurrying to make it back to our circle by Saturday. (This past week we've been vacationing at that fabulous resort at the base of Gurgu Volcano...) When all of a sudden, this huge storm whipped up, and everyone was knocked overboard except for me. So, I single-handedly rescued every sage while typing up the html for this tardy update....uh, yeah. And my chocobo ate my spellbook too. So that's why Circle Of Sages is late today. Hee hee, well, enjoy! And we all sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
Bad Sages! Bad Sages!
I was wondering if you guys were ever going to put up a Circle of Sages column. This is the second weekend in a row where you guys have done nothing, and quite frankly, it's annoying. If you want Thor to only do five days a week you should bother to update on weekends too!
-- John Lesjack
Lorelai: Yeah, I realize it was pretty bad to shirk our Circle Meeting on only the second session, but it really was accidental. After the fall from the canoe, Sage Mike caught a bad cold from exposure, but Sage Ryan was knocked out completely by subsequent illness. And of course, Sage Ryan was scheduled to make this page. So, at 12:00 on Sunday, Sage Mike gave the job to Sage Lorelai, who was mysteriously unhurt. (No, I did NOT sabotage the canoe Mike! Besides, no one saw me do it so they can't prove I did...!)
Martin: Well [John], I'm not sure where you were last weekend, (we did update) but I do know that Ryan was sick yesterday, and I was out of town.
Awww, he's sooo cute! Let's name him Sephiroth.
Hello sages, I just like to point out that there is RPGirls out there to Clouded. There are very few but we do exist. In fact the only other RPGirl I know is my mom and she's the one who brought me up on
RPGames, but that's not the point it's just that we do exist on this
earth. And it's a bit late but RPGamers who are under 15 are just as
much as RPGamers over 15. I'm 13, RPGirl, and have been playing for
almost my entire life. How scary is that?
Anyway, I'd like to ask what Sephiroth mean? It was in FF7 and in
some dialogue in Xenogears. My cousin think's (an RPGuy) it has
something to do with Japanese religions. I think it means some like
Armageddon. Enlighten me.
Amber: Sephirot are the ten paths to god in the Jewish religion, I believe. (Don't hold me to that -- I don't have any books on this subject.) Each path has a different virtue, etc...If you want more detailed
information, Sephiroth no oukoku (http://sno.simplenet.com) has a section
dedicated to the Kabbalah (this section of the religion) in the Temple
Rosie and Martin: Sephiroth when translated literally means "the life force flowing from
god." It all tied in with the lifestream theme.
Lorelai: Wait, I think CMaelstrm@aol.com knows something we don't.
CMaelstrm: You weren't that far off about the meaning of Sephiroth, though it's more well
known in Hebrew for 'numbers' and is directly related to Arabic 'sifra',
French 'chiffre', German 'Ziffer', and English 'cipher'. (Sanskrit 'shunya'
meaning 'void', originally.) In Hebrew (among other alphabets), each letter
has a numerical value, and the art of adding the letters in a word or phrase
to get a certain value is called 'gematria'. In Hebrew, the word Sephiroth has
the value of 756; in Greek, 894. Can anyone find any significance in these
numbers? I was hoping to relate them to the safe combination in the Shinra
Mansion, but they don't seem to work. ^^;
To Sequel or not to Sequel?
Ok, I have no clue who runs this thing...except some barbarian guy. Anyways, I visit this thing alot..yada yada yada. Ok nitty gritty...FFVIII : is it part one of two (Second being FFIX?) or a whole different game altogether? anways, I intend to become a regular...
Martin: I really think VIII and IX will be unrelated games, even though they are rumored to be under development at the same time. A two-part Final Fantasy might prove interesting, but history dictates that such games have always ended up like direct sequel movies, the sequels never live up to the first one. Capcom is planning a 24 part (either 24 or 12, I forget which) RPG for Dreamcast that should definitively proving or disproving the theory that direct sequels suck.
Gaaaah! What's happened to my Game!?
First off, thanks for the great site. I come to rpgamer for all the info
I need. Having said that, I got one quick question. My copy of FF3 got
left outside in cold weather for a bit(oops). At first I was worried
that it wouldn't work anymore, but when I plugged it in, it worked fine.
At first. After I played it a bit, I noticed a few problems. It didn't
really like playing the right peice of music when it was supposed to (I
didn't know Kefka and Terra had the same music...), and things like
taking Doom Gaze out of the game. Is this type of thing common?
-- Dark Rand
Martin: If it was outside long enough, and if it was wet outside, it might have
drained the battery, but then you wouldn't be able to save. When the
battery went out in my Legend of Zelda game, some extremely bizarre things
happened, that I would have never linked to the battery going bad, if I had
been able to save. The good news is, you can probably have the game
repaired by Nintendo for less than $10, plus shipping.
When, gawrd dernit, WHEN!
I have a suggestion for the release dates page. The page itself is fine
and I think that it is very well done, but I never know if it's been
updated unless I go to it, which can get annoying. It would be really
nice if you indicated on the front page when the release date page is
updated. I think the best way to ket us know when its been updated
would be to make a section for it like there is for the fan art, music,
etc. Thanks for listening.
Mike: I some how missed this the first time through the sages questions. Perhaps we can add a button on the redesign that changes color each time we update the release page or something. We'll see if we can come up with a good
plan. Hopefully the new design of pages will get a quick addition of
generating the release page every night. It's one of the first
"revisions" planned for the script. :>
Lots of Stuff
...Short and Simple, what the hell is all the
hype about freaking Xenogears? I played the demo and I hated it with a
passion. The world map was FF7's with Fei (which I may say is one of the
gayest names in the world for a main character) pasted on it. I felt like
shooting myself in the face everytime I heard that damn Irish folk music
kept emitting out of no where, and for some reason, if your a dude you had
look like a chick, and vice versa. Dan, the little brother of that girl,
looked like he was about forty. The dialouge was pretty bad, the battle
system was confusing, and that opening sequence had absaloutly nothing to
with the rest of the story!! Now I realize that it's not right to judge a
game buy a hour long demo, and I'm sure that it must get better but... how?
Amber: The hype about Xenogears is coming mostly from gamers who have already
finished the game. It's all a matter of opinion, and some people hate the
game, but you really have to give it enough of a chance -- meaning more than
an hour long demo.
To answer your questions about the game....... well first of all, like any
RPG, you have to play into the story. The intro does more than come back to
haunt you, but most of the game is preparing you for that. It really is a
major part of the storyline.
The storyline itself is very complicated, and you really have to see it all
to understand. Squaresoft did a good job with a contraversial subject, but
as I said, it's all a matter of opinion. This game is better than most
books I've read in my opinion, even with the faulty translation. All I can
say is, play the game, and if you don't like it in ten hours or so, then at
least you have more than a short preview to base your opinion on. At least
give it a chance first.
Lorelai: Watch out Jet, Amber just happens to REALLY love Xenogears! I shared your opinion at first; I didn't even finish the demo because I was so unimpressed; but now I have the game and I really enjoy playing it. I really do think it's one of Squaresoft's better RPGs. And also, regarding Fei's name (Fei Fong Wong), the name comes directly from a real person. According to firstname.lastname@example.org, Wong Fei Hong was a martial artist / teacher who lived about 90 years ago. I've seen a couple movies of him, and they all glorify him like crazy. Better show some respect to the Real Fei, cuz little Squaresoft Fei can't match up to the real thing...